tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post8266324412260561622..comments2023-11-26T06:57:37.441-05:00Comments on "The Lid": An Annotated List Of the President's 23 Gun Control Executive OrdersAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14337861108761350581noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-1646541349591442752013-01-17T09:55:16.083-05:002013-01-17T09:55:16.083-05:00"very very unimpressive. Generate lots of use..."very very unimpressive. Generate lots of useless reports, waste lots of money, accompolish absolutely NOTHING."<br /><br />Better that than actually instituting a ban.pacificwatershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15971711442889236130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-16343953205518262122013-01-17T09:52:09.230-05:002013-01-17T09:52:09.230-05:00"very very unimpressive. Generate lots of use..."very very unimpressive. Generate lots of useless reports, waste lots of money, accompolish absolutely NOTHING."<br /><br />Better that than actually instituting a ban.pacificwatershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15971711442889236130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-43507717250013437122013-01-16T19:08:48.507-05:002013-01-16T19:08:48.507-05:00#19. Oh good. Now all the shooters will know where...#19. Oh good. Now all the shooters will know where the kids will be hiding. Brilliant.Celiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00899513648339481349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-43818437312728284942013-01-16T19:07:47.876-05:002013-01-16T19:07:47.876-05:00Orders 1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, ...Orders 1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 are utterly non-controversial and should have been handled long ago in the ordinary course of doing business. They are utterly non-partisan. <br /><br />This begs the question what took Obama so long? Does there really have to be blood on the ground before we get an ATF director? Who, exactly was on the other side of that question? <br /><br />On the other hand, I would want details on what medical privacy provisions are being weakened by 2 and 3. 4 should equally focus on people unjustly denied their civil right to self defense by unjustified gun restriction. 5 should be paired with a weakening of qualified immunity in the case of illegal seizures. 14 is problematic because it turns violence into something it is not, a disease. Look up Soviet psychiatry for how badly that sort of miscategorization can turn out. And 18 needs to be watched not to turn into federal jobs pork.TMLutashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12033938954514865135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-55377891542707618622013-01-16T19:05:35.682-05:002013-01-16T19:05:35.682-05:00Eh. I it is a Peggy Lee. "Is that all there i...Eh. I it is a Peggy Lee. "Is that all there is?" <br /><br />However he did endorse the NRA approach:<br /><br />12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.<br /><br />18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.<br /><br />Score one for the NRA.Fat Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09554029467445000453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-12934512745083590172013-01-16T15:38:16.376-05:002013-01-16T15:38:16.376-05:00Bold stuff! All that manly clarifying and issuing...Bold stuff! All that manly clarifying and issuing of directives to committees to write reports. I'm just blown away by the leadership here. What a guy! Lincoln? This fellow Obama is the next Patton, the next Eisenhower! Forward!Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10138276375040381842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-63956672257872459292013-01-16T15:30:45.567-05:002013-01-16T15:30:45.567-05:00Odd, nothing in there addressing the one thing tha...Odd, nothing in there addressing the one thing that linked all the shootings he mentioned-- the fact they were all gun free zones. <br /><br />He talked about these folks being denied their rights to peaceful assembly, religion, etc. by the gunmen. But nothing about the laws or regulations which deprived them of their basic right to self-defense and preservation of their lives.mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230642177275728858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-46381761532711076162013-01-16T15:19:06.007-05:002013-01-16T15:19:06.007-05:00"Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing th..."Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."<br /><br />Isn't this one in direct contradiction to statutory law prohibiting the CDC from doing any such thing?Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04640945256355962927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-54669309460786276362013-01-16T14:15:45.020-05:002013-01-16T14:15:45.020-05:00Presidential farts in the wind...Presidential farts in the wind...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17558678985361257569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-65414825126032606232013-01-16T14:06:18.497-05:002013-01-16T14:06:18.497-05:00I almost panicked when I read that the Great Oh ha...I almost panicked when I read that the Great Oh had issued twenty-three exec orders regarding guns. Omigawd, I thought, this is gonna be sweeping, and intrusive, and nonsensicle. <br /><br />Then I saw the list. "Print brochures telling children that bullets HURT!" "Fund a study to see if pink guns cause less crime." "Find out where the ATF boss went." <br /><br />His base wanted him to do something BIG, and so he issued twenty-three - count 'em! Twenty-three! - Orders firmly establishing the new era of Urban Bliss and Prosperity.<br /><br />The base is probably ecstatic, and will remain so until someone over at Think?Progress actually reads the new rules.<br /><br />And then they're gonna be pissed.<br /><br />So, watch for Big Oh to announce a second set of Executive Orders regarding guns right around Friday afternoon. In this new set, he'll ban all rifles, he'll ban any handguns that can hold more than one bullet at a time, ammunition will be sold and delivered only via e-mail, and Los Zetas will finally be given explicit authority within ATF.bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05541153566289316156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-11812173561536272712013-01-16T14:02:05.073-05:002013-01-16T14:02:05.073-05:00That actually looks pretty good. I don't see a...That actually looks pretty good. I don't see any that are very worrying or dangerous. I count 7 that might actually be a tiny bit helpful (mainly improved background checks), 2 that I don't understand at all and the rest seem to be just ordering everyone to do what they should have been doing already, or meaningless boilerplate.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12023669368372102338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-44847665790652579152013-01-16T13:50:50.191-05:002013-01-16T13:50:50.191-05:00So basically, "enforce the gun laws we have,&...So basically, "enforce the gun laws we have," "write some memos," and "don't be so damn picky about privacy." None of this will actually change anything, but I bet it'll cost a lot of money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-29636993736631117032013-01-16T13:48:59.522-05:002013-01-16T13:48:59.522-05:00Unless "Have someone around to shoot bad guy ...Unless "Have someone around to shoot bad guy in the head" is on there, I remain unimpressed.the wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16733198163180642859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-14073827197915782972013-01-16T13:48:00.328-05:002013-01-16T13:48:00.328-05:00None of these would have affected Adam Lanza. He d...None of these would have affected Adam Lanza. He didn't buy his guns. He didn't undergo a background check.<br /><br />What would help?<br />1. Abolish pretend 'gun free zones'. <br />2. Encourage teachers, janitors, and other school employees to get added training and equipment to permit them to protect the children under their care.<br /><br />I would also support the following:<br />1. Institutional death penalty for BATFE: for the illegal and botched fast and furious gun running program. Explosives analysis should go to FBI. Tobacco and alcohol tax should go back to IRS. Regulation of firearms should return to states.Don Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057058763094040058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-517445784328838972013-01-16T13:45:55.898-05:002013-01-16T13:45:55.898-05:00very very unimpressive. Generate lots of useless r...very very unimpressive. Generate lots of useless reports, waste lots of money, accompolish absolutely NOTHING. How about banning the federal government from selling firearms to mexican drug cartekls? How abour prosecuting federal agents and their superiors who sold firearms to mexican drug cartels? If you want to educate people about gun safetly, rather have the federal government bumble about and do its' usual incompetant and ridiculously expensive job, why not give the money to the NRA . They have been doing an excellent jobs of firearms education and training for years.mr burnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12535191969377526338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-15819947427114872902013-01-16T13:38:36.879-05:002013-01-16T13:38:36.879-05:00Wonder why #23 doesn't include Attorney Genera...Wonder why #23 doesn't include Attorney General on the dialogue on gun violence? Oh, that's right -- he's responsible for Fast and Furious, which led to hundreds of deaths. Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06981706601001285694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-50738388935643064632013-01-16T13:25:32.524-05:002013-01-16T13:25:32.524-05:00Note that nowhere does the Emperor advocate fighti...Note that nowhere does the Emperor advocate fighting the ACLU and other opponents of institutionalizing the mentally ill.Stuart Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12521835728534370744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21392130.post-33975482361962586832013-01-16T13:23:51.256-05:002013-01-16T13:23:51.256-05:00Note that nowhere does the Emperor advocate fighti...Note that nowhere does the Emperor advocate fighting the ACLU and other opponents of institutionalizing the mentally ill.Stuart Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12521835728534370744noreply@blogger.com