Muslim or Not Obama's Religion is Scary !

(0riginally published 1/6/08) Nice to se the MSM Catch up--Its hard to believe that the Senator NEVER Heard this before as he said on Fox just yesterday. Is he lying or is a supposed "man of faith" throwing his mentor and spiritual leader of 20 years under the bus. Either way Obama's "Nixonian" reaction to the outing of his mentor, says much about the character of the Illinois Senator/

Obama claims that he was never a Muslim. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, lets take a look at his Christian background...specifically his religious mentor and Pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. Wright's philosophy and teachings have a very pronounced anti-Israel bias and are divisive on the issue of black-white relations in America.

For example does he feel that Natalee Holloway is a slut, just like his mentor does? How does he feel about any of the other comments made by his Pastor:

This is from the MSNBC Tucker Carlson Show

CARLSON: But Jeremiah Wright is at least a mixed bag politically. His work to improve conditions in impoverished black neighborhoods may be laudable, but his rhetoric includes attacks against white people and against Israel. Should Obama distance himself from Dr. Wright, and if so, can he effectively do that?

We welcome back to discuss that MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan and nationally syndicated radio show host Bill Press. Now, I have kind of liked Barack Obama from the very beginning. He seems moderate in tone. I spent all morning reading Jeremiah Wright online. All the church newsletters are available. The guy is a full-blown hater, actually. This is just pulled at random.

Here is his attack on Natalee Holloway as a slut. "Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months." In other words, she is a slut.

Nine-eleven, he says: "White America got their wake-up call after 9-11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns." So 9-11 was payback for white racism. I mean, it goes on, and I will read more. But your first thoughts on this, Bill.

PRESS: My first thought is --

CARLSON: It's not mainstream, is it?

PRESS: I think it's curious that not so long ago we were -- people were criticizing Barack Obama for being too radical a Muslim. And now he seems to be maybe being criticized for being too radical a Christian, number one. And my second thought is --

CARLSON: There is nothing Christian about this stuff.

PRESS: -- that -- but he is a Christian, I'm saying. But second thought is, Jeremiah Wright is not running for president. Barack Obama is. I'm sure if he were sitting here and you read those quotes to Barack Obama, he would say -- he would denounce every one of them as he has many things that Reverend Wright has said. [...]

CARLSON: Here is the Israeli thing, we were talking about this at the commercial break. This is quoting now the Reverend Wright: "The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism."

He compares Israel to South Africa repeatedly. He attacks Israel as a racist state.

BUCHANAN: This is the Jimmy Carter -- that Israel is Apartheid, and the disinvestment is this whole idea that is going around the campuses to cut off any university investments in Israel. I think Barack Obama is going to have to explain that.

PRESS: I was just going to say, let's be clear that that is Reverend Wright talking, not Barack Obama.

CARLSON: Absolutely. None of this is Barack Obama. Though he has defended this guy. I criticized him on the air a couple of months ago. Got all this hate mail calling me a racist for criticizing this guy. And Barack Obama defended him. I don't see how he can defend this guy.

PRESS: I think you raise a legitimate question about his relationship and what part of this guy he agrees with and what part he doesn't agree with. And that's for Barack Obama to answer. But I wouldn't automatically say that any piece of hate that you find spewing out of Jeremiah Wright's mouth is necessarily the point of view of Barack Obama. He has to explain it.

BUCHANAN: As a former candidate, they take these guys, they say, here is Buchanan, here is his friend, and here is what his friend said. And then you have got to spend the rest of the day or the week trying to explain it or defend it or renounce it.

CARLSON: That's right. I want Barack Obama to be as reasonable as he seems. I really do. I have nothing against Barack Obama at all. I like him. And I just want him to distance himself from this stuff because it is so --

BUCHANAN: It's going to be tough to distance himself from somebody.

PRESS: And you also said, very quickly, that this preacher has done a lot of good in Chicago for a lot of --

CARLSON: I don't know that he has. I'm just being nice. He sounds like a total hater to me.

The Times report was mentioned on the April 30 Hannity & Colmes, but not Obama's specific disagreement with Wright's 9-11 comments:

COLMES: Now, Kate, I get a sense that certain conservatives would love it if Wright's views got in the way of Barack Obama's chances or somehow infringed on his ability to be a good candidate, so let me get this straight. If you're a member of a congregation, you have to agree with everything your pastor says or rabbi says, for example, or you're besmirched if you don't go along and dovetail with everything that leader of the congregation believes in?

GRIFFIN: Alan, Reverend Wright has said some shocking things, saying that 9-11 is the result of America's violent policies --

COLMES: What does that have to do with Barack Obama?

GRIFFIN: -- comparing -- it has a lot to do with him. This is not a minister who's just talking about vague differences in theology. This is a man who calls America the United States of white America, the Great White West.

COLMES: And is that what Barack Obama believes?

GRIFFIN: You know what? Barack Obama credits his conversion to Christianity to this man. He studied his speeches while he was at Harvard. He is a student of his pastor.

COLMES: You want to smear Barack Obama with whatever this man says that you don't agree with.

GRIFFIN: Obviously, there's a very close relationship. And what the American people are going to want to hear is where Barack Obama stands on some of these more flagrant anti-white comments.

COLMES: Well, why don't ask you him or find out before you choose to smear Barack Obama with things that he may not agree with that his pastor says?

GRIFFIN: I believe he has been asked. He has been asked many times, and what he does is he avoids the question. He says, "Oh, I wasn't at church when he said that about 9-11," or, "That's between my pastor and me." Or the best was when he said, "He's a child of the '60s. He uses the language of concern." That is not distancing himself from these extremely radical statements.

COLMES: Laura Schwartz, this smear piece on Barack Obama, trying to smear him because of controversial positions his pastor may have.

GRIFFIN: From The New York Times.

COLMES: Yes, the Times reporting the story. Laura Schwartz, he says he respects Wright's work for the poor, the fight against injustice. He says they don't agree on everything, is what Barack said, and they never had a thorough conversation on all aspects of politics. I don't know why Barack's detractors can't accept that.

SCHWARTZ: You know, the church does a lot of great things in the community here in Chicago. I know many of its members and those that just attend on a regular basis, because I believe your faith is just that. It's your faith. It's not your church leader's. And we don't practice everything that we're preached to about.

HANNITY: Laura, we don't have a lot of time. I want to get into something here.

SCHWARTZ: And I think he's made that distinction. Sure.

HANNITY: First of all, Barack says that this pastor, this minister was the inspiration for his book, The Audacity of Hope. That's number one. Barack made the decision to disinvite him when he announced that he was running for president here.

This is hardly, you know, a smear, unless Alan is claiming The New York Times is smearing Barack Obama. But after the 9-11 attacks, the Sunday after the terrorist attacks, he blamed America. He blamed our country. And, you know, for you to say that there's not a connection here is a little bit absurd to me. You don't think there's any connection?

SCHWARTZ: Well, you know, to your two points. First, "Audacity of Hope," which was a sermon, I believe, he gave in 1988 that Barack Obama credits to a great part of his conversion and to the book that he wrote, The Audacity of Hope, that was a beautiful sermon. That was invigorating. It was spiritual. It opened his eyes to many things.

HANNITY: He blames the United States for the attacks on 9-11.

SCHWARTZ: I'm talking about the 1988 sermon called "The Audacity of Hope." It's wonderful. I encourage people to read it.

HANNITY: I understand that.

SCHWARTZ: Now, to your second point, on the invocation, Obama did the right thing by not having him give that, because you know what? That puts on a national stage, and it puts your connection with things that have come up since that sermon.

HANNITY: What does it say -- if there was a Republican candidate, Laura, who had as their church premise on their website "commitment to the white community, commitment to the white family, adherence to the white work ethic, pledge to make all the fruits of developing acquired skills available to the white community," wouldn't that be deemed as racist? And wouldn't that --

SCHWARTZ: And offensive.

HANNITY: -- candidate have to disavow themselves from that church?

SCHWARTZ: I think so, to a certain extent, whereas, in our country, when we talk about racial differences, the African-American essence has a different place in the community from what they've come up through than the white Americans.

HANNITY: Does it sound racist to you?

SCHWARTZ: To talk about the black community? No, because he preaches what the essence of the African-American experience that --

GRIFFIN: It's anti-white and anti-American

Source: Atlas Shrugs Obama's Pastor is "A TOTAL HATER"

I wonder if the senator agrees this the book published by his Church that libels Israel:

In 2003, Pilgrim Press, a publishing house owned by the United Church of Christ, who has Democratic Presidential Candidate Barak Obama as a member, published Whose Land? Whose Promise? What Christians Are Not Being Told about Israel and the Palestinians. The book was written by Rev. Dr. Gary Burge, an ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church (USA) and New Testament Scholar at Billy Graham’s alma mater – Wheaton College and Graduate School located in Wheaton, Illinois. This book, a reworking of Burge’s first book Who Are God’s People in the Middle East? What Christians are not being told about Israel and the Palestinians, published by Zondervan in 1993, received a sympathetic review from Christian Century, the house organ for mainline Protestantism in the U.S. Christianity Today, which caters to evangelical Christians in the U.S., gave the book an “award of merit” in its 2004 Book Awards. Barak Obama's Church Publishes Anti Israel Tome

Will you Slander Israel like your Church does?

In reaction to a statement by the United Church of Christ (UCC) and the Disciples of Christ (DoC) on the 40th anniversary of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) called it "unfair and one-sided" and asked, "As people of God, how can you justify ignoring that Israelis…have suffered from decades of suicide bombings?"

"In focusing on Palestinian suffering, you demonstrate that you place the onus for the Arab-Israeli conflict solely on Israel. By emphasizing the effects of the conflict on the Palestinians, you devalue the loss of Israeli life and the suffering inflicted on the people of Israel as a result of years of unrelenting terror attacks."

The UCC/DoC message stated that for the last 40 years, "the Palestinian people have lived under occupation, while "the Israeli people have lived with an ongoing debate..." It discussed the suffering of generations of Palestinians, referring to checkpoints, curfews, home demolition, but in referring to any effect on Israelis said, "Generations of Israelis have experienced mandatory military service in the West Bank, Gaza, the Sinai, and the Golan Heights."

"As people of God, how can you justify ignoring that Israelis, young and old, women and children, have suffered from decades of suicide bombings -- suicide bombings on public transportation as they commute to school and work, in the middle of their cities -- at shopping malls and restaurants?" asked the ADL "How can you discount the events that led to the Six-Day War and the unsuccessful attempts by the State of Israel to negotiate a peace treaty after the war that would have meant the return of Gaza and the much of the West Bank decades ago?"

"At a time when Israeli citizens are targeted by rockets and the elected Palestinian leadership supports the eradication of the State of Israel and the use of terrorism to this end, it is particularly unfortunate that a religious organization which says it is committed to a resolution to this conflict has abandoned the course of objective, credible advocacy for the protection of all parties, which is so essential to a constructive and lasting path to peace." Barack Obama Has No Guts (and thats the Best Case Scenario)

So which is it Senator...what tell us more about your religious background? Is it a Church that divides people by racial lines, and tells lies about Jews and Israel? Just like your pastor and mentor? So which one is it?