This is a perfect example of the place women have in an Islamic society. There for the man's pleasure and when they no longer pleasure, there is always "honor killing." It is also a perfect example of the hypocrisy of the left. They should be fighting for the rights of women in Muslim countries, but they sit on their hands.“What would you do if we were with someone else?'’ she asked.
“I would get rid of him and try something with you,'’ he replied. “Not rape, I would try to do something, to get you to do something.”
“And if I said no?” she asked.
“Then I would rape you.”
Read more of the discussion with the young Saudis below:
Frank Talk, and Warnings, in a Saudi Desert
By Michael SlackmanFor privacy and a little sense of freedom, Saudi youths often go out to the desert. So when I wanted to talk to some young men, a friend suggested we drive outside of Riyadh. At the edge of the city, I sat with the friend and a female Egyptian journalist I was traveling with to talk to six Saudi men, ages 19 to 26. They all worked for the Saudi military.
The sun was setting as a shadow began to blanket the rolling sand dunes. Dry wood crackled on a bright orange fire, a blackened coffee pot sat by the glowing coals and sweet dates, sticky to the touch, were passed around. It was a beautiful, peaceful scene, soon to be interrupted.
“You’re reckless,'’ one of the young men said to me.
He said that it was dangerous to drive into the desert with a group of Saudi men we did not know well. He said we were lucky to have been invited by someone who was honest and trustworthy. Otherwise he said, we might have been attacked.
“The way a Saudi would think is ‘What is this girl doing here alone?’ If you are with a man, you better be his sister or his wife.”
That was Fahd’s explanation. He was 26 years old. He was seated on one side of the fire, the glow of the flames dancing across his face.
“Quiet, you are scaring them,'’ said the friend who took us to the desert.
Perhaps this was a bit of male bonding, of young guys showing off to the foreigners. But the tone was casual, the looks casual, the whole conversation amazingly casual. The Egyptian woman asked how he would treat us if we had not been introduced by our friend.
“What would you do if we were with someone else?'’ she asked.
“I would get rid of him and try something with you,'’ he replied. “Not rape, I would try to do something, to get you to do something.”
“And if I said no?” she asked.
“Then I would rape you.”
That was it. None of the other young men seemed surprised, or sounded an objection. Would he really do it? Probably not. And neither would the other young men there, the ones who quietly nodded. But no one said “just kidding.” What they said was that this was a serious possibility we needed to be aware of. They acknowledged that rape was against their religion, but as a sin, they put it in the same category as a woman working with a man in the desert trying to understand young Saudi men.
‘Ninety percent of Saudis would think it is not right,'’ Fahd said. “An Egyptian girl with an American man, or a girl alone, what is she doing here?”
5 comments:
The penalty for rape in an Islamic society, even in Saudi, is death. (see http://deathpenaltynews.blogspot.com/2008/04/saudi-arabia-two-soldiers-publicly.html)
Compare that to 3 year suspended sentences for rapists in some western countries. (http://tinyurl.com/46a758)
I would question which society values women more.
Regards,
Shukri
The repression of natural sexual expression leads to Catholic priests molesting altar boys, and Muslim states breeding animals ripe for jihad. Sad.
Shukri
boy you are becoming a regular reader..thanks.
I have a question. That Death penalty is that for the rapist of the victim. You know like that saudi woman who was gang raped and was sentanced to Jail and Lashes until the world outcry got her a pardon. I know that Honor Killings rarely get severe sententance. What country do you live in?
Shukri, in Jordan when a woman is raped, it is she who is subject to summary execution in the form of dishonor killing. And, if that doesn't happen, she is placed in prison in protective custody for years on end while her rapist walks free.
Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
"Reclaiming Honor in Jordan"
American patriot, sir, Muslims believe in free sexual expression within the boundaries of marriage. It is, after all, only animals that lack the institution of marriage.
Yid with lid, sir, the sentence is for the rapist.
"Honor killing" is murder in Islam and people convicted of murder are usually put to death according to Shari'ah law.
Ms. Sheeley, Jordan's law is mostly a mixture of French & British law. Shari'ah is unfortunately only applied to civil cases such as divorce. You would certainly see "honor killing" perpetrators punished severely should Jordan allow Shari'ah criminal courts. See: http://www.law.emory.edu/ifl/legal/jordan.htm
Sincerely,
Shukri
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