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Friday, March 22, 2013

CPAC Follow-up--> How Many Black People Are Here?: Jolie's Story

As I walked out of the media center last Thursday at CPAC, I found a tall African-American fellow (Named Greg Thrasher) berating a young woman. At first I believed she was as CPAC Staffer, but having met her two days later I now know she is a twenty year old law student named Jolie Davis (and Judging by her intelligence I will probably be voting for her one day).
 HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE ARE HERE, he was shouting. The poor young lady was backed into an alcove as he continued.  You say you are trying to do outreach to minority community--HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE ARE HERE!
Mr. Thrasher and I have a difference of opinion, I believe he was bulling Ms Davis, he disagrees. Nevertheless, reacting more with anti-bully instincts than reporting ones I screamed back at Thrasher, who writes at a liberal blog called Plane Ideas.

While returning to the Media area a while later  I passed the berated young woman once again, which rekindled the anger I had over Mr. Thrasher's bullying. I came up to a toned-down Mr. Thrasher was still pontificating-I confronted him again.  Javier Manjarres editor of The Shark Tank questioned Thrasher caught only the end of the second confrontation which has since become a "hit" on the Daily Kos as I became (in their minds)  the biggest hater since Mel Gibson.

 When I met Ms. Davis I asked her to write down her thoughts about the incident and how it began.  She posted her experience on her blog and has given me permission to cross post her words. 

My Experience at CPAC 2013
By Jolie Davis

I was enjoying my time at CPAC 2013 when I overheard a heated conversation as I passed through the halls. I ducked into an alcove to allow a beverage cart to pass when I heard one man, Greg Thrasher, call Lt. Col. Allen West a “slave catcher.” As a proud Floridian and an Army brat myself, I was instantly intrigued. I asked Mr. Thrasher a simple question “may I ask you what you are talking about?” He confirmed that he indeed called Lt. Col. Allen West a slave catcher.

I fully admit that I am biased toward Lt. Col. West, but calling anyone a “slave catcher” would not sit well with me. I asked him to explain this statement, but was met with only patronizing questions. Mr. Thrasher said that Lt. Col. Allen West says nothing, and that he has no new ideas to bring. I retorted that West believes in the American dream and that he is telling people that it does not matter who you are, your actions and values will get you where you want to go. Although I was continuously interrupted, I attempted to get across the point that Conservatives do not need a new message. Our message of values is tried and tested and we know it works. Thrasher stated that West wanted to bring black people back, a comment I find relatively similar to Biden’s ”…put y’all back in chains.” I attempted to explain to Mr. Thrasher, that by making such racially charged statements he is contributing to the divisive attitude the Left successfully espouses. The conversation quickly devolved into a heated exchange on race in America and in the GOP.

It is my belief that in America in 2013 race does not matter. I was barely able to get through three consecutive words before Mr. Thrasher would interrupt. Nonetheless, I told Thrasher and will state again, race does not matter. We are not beholden to ideas because of the color of our skin. We need to get passed the racially charged rhetoric before we can address the real issues facing our party.

Mr. Thrasher posed the question “what’s wrong with the GOP that we can’t recruit black people?” “Where are all the Black people?” He asked. I asked him, “Why does it matter what color people are?” I was met with hostile questions and more condescending name-calling. When I told him that the name-calling was not accomplishing anything, he responded by saying “name-calling is good” and that he liked it. While I can get over being called ignorant, I will not sit by while another person racially attacks one of my heroes in my presence. I told Mr. Thrasher that I think it is he and people with similar attitudes that are causing the racial problems in America. By singling out racial groups he is dividing Americans into categories. I told Mr. Thrasher that as conservatives we should not be contributing to the “us-versus-them" mentality the Left thrives on. We should not be a nation of hyphenated Americans. I am not an African-American or a Multi-racial American. I am an American. We should unite behind our ideas and not divided ourselves because of the color of our skin.

It was my impression that Mr. Thrasher believes that race, in America, affects every part of life. I disagree. While Mr. Thrasher looked at CPAC attendees as black or white, I saw a group of people who still had faith in the American Dream. I saw a group of people who were willing to put the well-being of our Country over the opportunity for a hand-out. I saw the people who will lead America back to prosperity.

Since this incident, along with the hate mail from the crazy Kos folks , I have received and responded to comments from Greg Thrasher, while we still don't agree on most things I enjoy the civility of our continued dialog and believe that each one of us has a clearer understanding of the position of the other I hope that we continue to learn from each other.

As for Jolie Davis, speaking to her last week and reading her heartfelt rendition of the events leading up to the confrontation make me hopeful about the future of this country.  There were many young people like Jolie at CPAC (including my own daughter) all of them sharp in thought and with a great love for the America our founders created so long ago.


Thrasher said...

Ms.Davis interpretation of our exchanged is very subjective and neglects to mention her confrontational attitude and her streams of incoherent comments directed at me.

Unlike her West is not my hero a person of his myopic wit and contempt for Black Americans could never be worthy of my respect . West is a pitiful and petty person his vicious verbiage has included attacks on woman and even our president that is beneath dignity.

It is troubling reading that Ms. Davis admires an intellectual loser like West. I am also disappointed in her version of our exchange she does not offer up an apology for her role in making me a target of your rants and many other nasty comments about me and the hue of my skin to ugly emails about my parents etc.

Unlike her I will offer my apology if my informed opinions offended her. I will note that Ms.Davis just like you Jeff have attacked me for acknowledgment of the reality of race in our nation Yet both of while lecturing about being an American have both then stated you were Conservative Americans! Please make up your mind are we all just Americans or must we be Conservative as well.

You and Ms. Davis both need to practice what you yelled and were preaching to me. Americans not conservative or liberal just AMERICANS!

Tom said...

The next time he, or anyone else, asks, "Where are the Blacks?" tell them to go ask Planned Parenthood. I believe they can actually provide the numbers.

Jeff Dunetz said...

Mr Thrasher

Ms Davis has nothing to apologize for. She did not draw me into the incident you did by berating her.

I don't know about any ugly emails to you but I can tell you I was attacked for a few days after my first post.

Those who attacked you and those who attacked me via email are cowards of the worst kind.

As for Allen West whether you agree with his politics or not, I find it sad that you talk that way about a man who spent the bulk of his adult life in the army protecting your family and mine.

I was not on last night, and will be limited during the next few days because of the passover holiday, so excuse me If any comments of your (and responses) take a while to get up.

Clinton said...

Tom, your comment was brilliant-- horribly true and

Mr. Thrasher, might I suggest either an editor, a proof-
reader, or at least a few remedial English comp. classes?
It's difficult to take your self-described "informed opinions"
seriously when their presentation is so sloppy and incoherent.

Mr. Dunetz, Have a blessed Passover.

Thrasher said...


Enjoy Passover ... West is not my hero nor do I have respect for people who hate his own tribe. My father in law was a Tuskegee Airman who encountered racism unlike you a jewish man but also a white man in America has never encountered so please refrain from lecturing to me about West etc

Ms.Davis confronted me like you did unlike you and her I do not have selective amnesia. I would like an apology from both of you but I am moving on..

Again Happy Passover ..


Thrasher said...


This is a blog not an english class clearly you understood my comments by your snarky remarks..

Perhaps I should suggest a class on manners and civility for you in a blog,lol,lol