A few years ago, the Mormon’s made an agreement with representatives of the Jewish community to spare Jewish Holocaust Victims from this effrontery. It seems that they have broken their agreement and "converted" Simon Wiesenthal, the famous Nazi Hunter, who died last year. (Hats off to JewSchool)
KSL 5, Salt Lake City, reports:
Questions tonight about a well-known Jewish leader, whose name appeared on genealogy records of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Simon Wiesethal died last year, after surviving the Holocaust and dedicating his life to fighting anti-Semitism. But his name on Latter-day Saint records has upset Jewish leaders. They call it a violation of an agreement between Holocaust survivors and the church.
The name was apparently only on the church records for less than a week and was removed today as soon as the church learned of it.
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On December 11th, Wiesenthal’s name appeared on the LDS church’s International Genealogical Index.
Rabbi Marvin Hier, Founder, Simon Wiesenthal Center: “This is very offensive to Jews. It violates an agreement that the Mormon Church had with the American Gathering of Holocaust survivors.”
The LDS church believes in performing baptisms for those not of their faith, after their death. But in 1995, the church agreed with Jewish leaders to remove the names of all Holocaust survivors who were baptized for the dead in LDS temples, and to stop adding them to their rolls.
Hier told the JTA:
“We are astounded and dismayed that after assurances and promises by the Mormon Church, Mr. Wiesenthal’s life and memory, along with so many other Jews, would be trampled and disregarded,” Hier said.
Wiesenthal “proudly lived as a Jew, died as a Jew, demanded justice for the millions of the victims of the Holocaust and, at his request, was buried in the State of Israel,” he said.
“It is sacrilegious for the Mormon faith to desecrate his memory by suggesting that Jews on their own are not worthy enough to receive God’s eternal blessing.”
Jewschool suggests that you call 1-800-645-4949 and arrange your own private meeting with a representative of the LDS to let them know how you feel about this issue. He is nicer than I am. I suggest that we have a Jewish march on Salt Lake City dig up their prophet Brigham Young..and give that dead guy a Bris!!! If we can't do that, maybe we can find some of the Church elders and circumcise those pricks. I will volunteer to pay for the Moyels
7 comments:
bravo - great idea - i for one am using a banana in my post mortem circumcision ritual for BY.
Riiight. Let's sink to their level. That's a great idea!
Fern
What happened, you take your bar exam and lose your sense of Humor?
Sammy your idea makes absolute sense to me! I think tit for tat will teach them a lesson and the circumcision won't even hurt him.
Relax! Take it easy on us Mormons! We have databases of hundreds of millions of people, one slipped through, easy mistake.
You will not find a more Jewish/Israel friendly organization than the Mormons. You should know that already.
Besides, no march will be necessary as we Mormons (in general) are all circumcised.
Freedom, hehe, you said tit! To really make it tit for tat you would have to get some proxy individual to have a circumcision for Brigham Young. Yikes!
Keep up the fight...just not against the Mormons please.
Lug...out
Sorry Lug almost everything you say is true, The problem is making those kind of decisons for people is disgusting especially when the people are dead and can't defend themselves. Dishonoring the dead is one of the worst things you can do in Jewish belief, and the Mormon Church has done just that. They have also dishonored the rest of the Jews by saying we are not good enough to go to heaven. I don't force my religion on others---others shouldn't force theirs on me or the Jewish people.
Yid With Lid,
I understand you feel strongly about this issue. I will not sluff off your feelings by stating that, "you don't believe it so why do you care?". I do however like this comment posted over at Jewschool.
"Every time I say that I find it offensive that Jews are getting into bed with evangelicals, because they believe we’re going to hell, everyone queues up in line to tell me, “Why should we care? We don’t believe it!”
My (limited) understanding is that Mormons believe that we have another chance for salvation after death, that baptism isn’t necessary for that chance to be given, but that (for some reason) it makes it easier. So they baptize us. Why are they suddenly worse than the evangelicals?
This reminds me of the Jew who eats treyf and never sets foot inside a synagogue squawking because his friend has a Christmas tree. My father pulled this once, and I confronted him with the paradox, and he replied, “Because it’s a symbol.” Please. What difference does it make? “We don’t believe it!”
I actually find this less offensive than the beliefs of the evangelicals. Far, far less.
In fact - what if we’re wrong? They are at least willing to give us “fire insurance” after the fact. That is something that the evangelicals won’t do. They are perfectly happy to see us fry for all eternity, while using us to further their psychotic “end-times” scenario, yet so many of you are happy to take their money and their political influence, and you don’t bat an eye. But the idea that someone might have the presumption to baptize you posthumously? That makes you crazy!
Comment by cipher — December 20, 2006 @ 8:14 am"
Thank you for your comments. Keep up the good fight!
Lug...out
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