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Tuesday, October 16, 2007

Defending Ann Coulter

Not that Ann Coulter needs my help but a lot has been written since last week when I gave my opinion (see Ann Coulter is NOT an Anti-Semite) on the Ann Coulter/Donny Deutsch adventure, I feel compelled to rejoin this particular fray. Personally I got a mixed reaction--some of you agreed with me most passionately, others thought I was a raving lunatic (but enough about my family). My Favorite was the person from Philadelphia with the IP address 151.197.17.96 who said I was a coward for writing that post. The Funny thing about Mr./Ms. IP 151.197.17.96 is that the comment was anonymous so in truth who is the coward?

Today I checked out the ADL site and saw that Abe Foxman has condemned Ms. Coulter. Thank God Abe Foxman doesn't speak for Jewry. And neither does Donnie Deutsch. In fact:
Donny Deutsch is to Jewry as the Olive Garden is to Italian Food.
Jay D. Homnick makes the point below that Coulter was not calling for pogroms, she was not calling for forced conversions, what she was saying was that according to her religion one is not perfected unless they believe that Jesus is their savior. What is wrong with that, according to my religion if you believe Jesus is your savior you are not perfect...and the point is?

Let me suggest that if it was a Democrat saying what Ann Coulter said it would be no big deal and we would be done fighting. But Ms Coulter like Rush Limbaugh the week before, is a icon of evil to those of the more liberal persuasion---since their is nothing good coming out of congress and the news out of Iraq continues to improve the Democrats have no policy to argue about--so they waste their time on Radio Hosts and Pundits.

In Defense of Ann Coulter By Jay D. Homnick

Published 10/15/2007 12:07:29 AM


A couple of years ago, the girls' volleyball team of Seattle Hebrew Academy's junior high (where Michael Medved's children attend) went undefeated, dominating the parochial school league in that area. One team from a Catholic school came to play them for the first time and Principal Rivy Poupko Klitenik greeted their bus on arrival. "And what is the team name?" she asked.

"We are the Crusaders."

She gulped. "Well, I hope this time turns out better than the last."

Which brings us to the curious case of Donnie Deutsch, his nasty ambush of Ann Coulter, his real or pretended thick-headedness about the relationship between Jews and Christians, and the subsequent piling-on of Ann for utterly inoffensive remarks. I watched the video clip of the entire exchange carefully and those are my considered conclusions.

Here is what happened. Ann is promoting a book and in those circumstances she accepts all invitations, even into hostile territory. She came on Deutsch's CNBC show,The Big Idea, the interview appearing over a chiron reading: "Being Extreme Makes Millions." The host is a blow-dried pretty boy who wears half-glasses down on his nose to create a kind of Michael-Landon-meets-Erkel effect. He asked Ann what her ideal America would look like and she answered: "All the Democrats would be like Joe Lieberman and all the Republicans like Duncan Hunter."

He countered that he meant what kind of place America would be generally, not politically. A joyful place, she responds, safe and prosperous. More tolerant? Yes, definitely, like the mega-churches she lectures in where they are thoroughly diverse and integrated in an unself-conscious way. "What, a Christian America? No Jews, no Buddhists?"

In the course of the next few sentences of repartee, Ann makes a number of points. 1) That a Christian views himself as a perfected Jew. 2) That a Jew has to obey the Law to be in Heaven, but Christians believe they have a "fast track." 3) That this is basic to anyone familiar with the New Testament. 4) That there is nothing offensive in this to Jews. Deutsch, for his part, claims to be a practicing Jew, but says he finds this personally offensive, more appropriate for a Prime Minister of Iran than for an educated woman like Ann.

In fact, the only one exposing blind spots in his education was the host. If he does not know that Christians believe Jews are lacking something by not accepting Jesus as a savior, if he does not know that Jews believe Christians are to one degree or another in error by believing Jesus can save them, he is ignorant of the most basic facts of religious life. By the same token, at this stage in history both sides have concluded that they will not settle the theological differences short of a prophetic or Messianic intervention.

The serious people on both sides also know that they share a broad set of overlapping moral values along with an interest in a wholesome, family-oriented society and culture. If they stand on ceremony and refuse to work together because the other is not catechumenically correct, the result will be that the forces of depravity will divide them and conquer the street. In the meantime, each side chuckles to themselves that they have the spiritual edge. (Ann's view is more amicable than most; many Christians believe the Jews lost their Covenant entirely.)

I once saw a transcript of one of the forced debates that were common in the 13th century, where the king would compel a Jewish scholar to debate a Christian scholar. This particular manuscript did not identify the rabbi involved, but he was pretty fearless, pointing out the excesses of the Crusaders. At one point the priest says to him: "What if you are wrong and on Judgment Day God is angry at you for not accepting Jesus?" He answers: "What if you are wrong and on Judgment Day God is angry at you for accepting Jesus? The answer is that as long as you make your best judgment in a sincere way, it is unlikely that a perfectly intelligent and just God will be angry."

To imply that Ann Coulter violated an intellectual norm, a religious norm, a social norm, by explaining the things she did in the manner she did, is simply misinformed -- if not crude religion baiting. It just ain't so. Indeed the contrast between Ann's Christianity and Ahmadinejad's Islam is particularly "striking," to use her adjective of preference. Remember who she used as an example in the sentence before to describe the ideal Democrat? None other than Joseph Lieberman, the most traditionally practicing Jew in the history of the United States government.


Jay D. Homnick, commentator and humorist, is a frequent contributor to The American Spectator. He also writes for Human Events.

3 comments:

Daniel said...

So is Deutsch observant?
My hunch is that at best he is a twice a year treife eater and at worst intermarried.

Anonymous said...

As a person who was an Evangelical Christian for 17 years but has returned to Judaism, I feel I must say that I agree with most of your points, except a few.

First, I do not agree that the Jewish world would be less up in arms if the comments had come from someone on the left.

Secondly, you must understand something about Evangelical Christian Code (Please note - I use the word evangelical according to its definition - not all christians are evangelical). Evangelical Christian Code says that after the phrase, "You have to keep the law" comes the phrase "nobody can keep the law, and that is why EVERYBODY needs Jesus." You may argue that she never said that - this is true, but it is still there, in the code.

The real problem is not so much that Christians believe that everyone needs Jesus (although there are many Christians who ascribe to dual covenant theology -that is, that Jews have a covenant that precedes and supercedes the Jesus Covenant), the real problem is that this particular brand of christians can't keep their mouths shut about it and that they are using thier support of Israel to push their own agenda in the country. If the support came with no strings attached, I'd welcome it with open arms, but unfortunately, it does.

Personal note to the owner - if you would like me to enumerate these, I would be happy to. Email me at director@shomreiemet.com

Penina Taylor
Director, Shomrei Emet Institute for Counter-Missionary Studies
www.shomreiemet.com

Anonymous said...

WASHINGTON, Oct. 12 /Christian Newswire/ -- National Clergy Council president and chair of the Committee on Church and Society for the Evangelical Church Alliance, the Reverend Rob Schenck (pronounced SHANK), released this statement today in response to author and commentator Anne Coulter's remarks on the Danny Deutsch Show:

"Anne Coulter may do many things well, but one thing she definitely does not do well is theology or Bible scholarship. Anne's comments to Danny Deutsch were inaccurate, inappropriate and a disservice to the Gospel. Anne needs to unequivocally apologize for entering an arena where she is inept. It's time for Anne to humble herself and admit she blew it."

Schenck, who grew up Jewish and converted to Christianity 35 years ago, holds degrees in Bible and Theology, Christian ministry and Divinity. A conservative Christian, he holds ministerial affiliation with the Evangelical Church Alliance, America's oldest association of Evangelical clergy.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/faa1012.htm